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Part 2

Ok OK whatever...So what is the difference between a "proper" critique, constructive, criticism, and someone just nitpicking?

Here are examples.

Example of a nitpick I have received on my art work quite often.

"Ugh.. you have drawn the boobs way to big on that character in comparison to how it is drawn in the comic book."

My Take on This Response
The person clearly voiced their opinion.But chose to only notice what they felt was a flaw in the work.I openly admit to drawing big breasts on most of my fan art.So the response was valid.But not fully explained.To me the artist I'm left wondering if the person just doesn't like big boobs or the drawing in general.The only thing they pointed out and "picked" on was how big I drawn the characters boobs. As the artist getting that response I'm left wondering where is this person going with this type comment. And you as the person posting the comment has just opened up a can of worms that you may not have the time or state of mind to deal with. Because this can be seen as a form of hating or art shaming someones work.

Example of Constructive Criticism

" You do realize the boobs are way to big on the character don't you?. And it doesn't fit the characters body type. The hands are not drawn very well and I noticed that you always draw your heads in a 3 quarters view or angle. And why don't you draw the full figure.You always seem to draw your figures ending at the knee. If I were you I would look at tutorials on how to properly draw breasts. And take some anatomy classes.You should work on drawing different poses as well."

My take on this response
The person was brutally honest to the point it came off as condescending even though they may not have wanted to come off that way.This person made an honest and straight to the point observation and offered very constructive criticism. But that's all they did. They mostly criticized what they felt were flaws in the work. They didn't acknowledge anything good about it. They also gave a very "know it all" way of giving me advice to address the flaws in my work. But you know what. I cannot deny I have those flaws. But what would piss me off is the fact they are profiling me as an artist. Because I do know how to properly draw breasts.I just draw what I like drawing.I have taken 2 different anatomy classes. And 3 different figure drawing classes. So all that knowledge may not come through in most of my work.But thats because I'm drawing based purely on aesthetics and what I like to look at and draw.First and foremost I draw for me unless your paying me to draw something for you.

Example of a Proper Critique

"Wow! Mack nice work.Great job on the hair and shading.The face is really well done and I like the attention to detail in trying to get the costume to be as accurate as possible. The body flow is very solid and visually appealing.
The breasts are a little too big for my taste but to each their own.

You might want to tighten up your hands though and be mindful of your proportions.They do work but sometimes the anatomy can be slightly off. I would like to see more dynamic poses in your work. You do tend to draw the same or similar poses a lot. Overall the work is solid.Keep doing what you do!"

My take on this response.
A well thought out and worded critique. This person noticed what I do well and mentions what they like about the art work.At the same time they do not let their own personal bias cloud their judgment and critique the piece for what it is. They also recognized all my flaws by telling me in a way "That hey maybe you would want to address these issues.Because it will make your work better". They also said what they would like to see in my work in hopes that it will stimulate my creativity. I can't bad mouth this person or get butt hurt for that type of comment to my work.Because they came off as liking my work,being supportive, and offering great advice on things to improve in my work. I could be angry and not accept this persons critique but that just would make me come off as arrogant art scrub.Who thinks they are to good to have their work critiqued.

"Fine I see what you are saying. But what if I genuinely feel that the person giving me constructive criticism or critiques is talking out of their ass concerning some aspects of my art. Or I feel they don't have the skills or street cred to tell me anything concerning art."

Hmm well I guess its time to address....

How to Take and Receive Critiques

Me personally has gotten it a lot of constructive criticism,critiques,nitpicks, and some degree of hate over the years for my art work. Many different factors come into play in how and why some artists get more love than others.And why certain artists don't get the attention they deserve.Times are a lot more different now compared to when I was going to art school. The standards were higher.Digital tools and even having access to the internet wasn't common. If you wanted to show off your work you either got a table at cons or attended cons. You had to mail off your art submissions to potential employers back then. Since the standards were higher the art game was viewed more as a viable trade to apply your craft more so than just as a hobby. A lot of top names got known from toiling in the trenches in the independent comic book scene. Some well known artists worked for free just to get known in order to get hired and paid as a comic book artist.

These days if you got the creativity,the time, and the extra income you can self publish your own comic book or webcomic.You don't need to travel to have editors look at your work or submit your work to them.All you need is a dream,time, and passion to get your work out there.Not too mention you can download a lot of digital art tools for free.You can read a bunch of tutorials and watch hours of Youtube videos on how to do art and do digital color work.So you can mentally convince yourself you got what it takes to compete with the big boys.

"Whoah! Whoah! What the hell does this have to do receiving critiques?!

I'm getting to that.Almost every thing is easily accessible these days. And this leads to instant gratification.Which in turn leads to a lot of derivative work being published and produced. Which lowers the previous standards that were set.

"Ok but why is this such a big deal? Isn't a good thing for more people to get into art?Shouldn't everyone have the opportunity to be able to create?"

Here's a question for you,would you accept just anyone into the NBA just because they learned how to do dribble tricks and dunk from watching Youtube videos? You have to earn your spot.And the standards for anything at a high level are very high. In order to develop into being in the NBA you got to be athletically gifted,court savy, and love the game to the point you don't half ass the process of getting better. And your constantly going to be coached and have not just coaches but players dissecting and breaking down your game as a player.

"But that's sports?! That doesn't apply to the art game?"

Yes it does. Not only do you got to bust your ass and constantly draw and study.Your going to have people,teachers,friends,family, and your peers in the art game either supporting you or not. How you learn,who supports your work, and how you take coaching and critique has a huge hand in your success as an artist. Granted there are different paths to success in the art game.Even still how you take and receive critique and feedback does determine your fate if you want to be a professional.

"What if I don't want to be a professional? And I just want to draw and tell my stories because I enjoiy doing it."

That's perfectly fine.But as soon as you start self publishing your comics and stories with the intent to sale you are jumping into an ocean full of sharks. You are no longer a hobbyist if you intend to profit off of your work. No matter how much you consider it just a "hobby".Putting in all that work and time to produce a book and not make any profit to at least cover the cost on it is a waste of time and finances. Plus you are flooding the market with derivative product if you continue to think of it as just a "hobby". There are people trying to make a name for themselves in the art game. How you take critique is essential to getting better. Getting your name out there and leading to more opportunities doing what you love for a living.

If you don't want to be a pro or take your game to the next level then that's fine. But most artists want to display their work and have it recognized.If you want to lower the amount of haters,criticism, and bad critiques you get well your still going to have to want to get better even if you just like to draw for shits a giggles. Once you put your work on display you got to mentally prepare yourself for various types of responses to your work.

"Whatever..So how should I react to haters and criticism?"

As far as hate your better off ignoring it.But you also have to know how to tell the difference between some one hating and offering valid criticism. That only happens from receiving a fair share of hate,valid criticism, and proper critique. And because their are so many new artists getting into the art game not many of them has had the experience of having their work properly critiqued. So many don't know how to take it. We got a lot of grown folks acting like whiny brats in the art game and geek fandom in general right now.

Before you get defensive about getting your worked critiqued you should know your strengths and weaknesses as an artist.What is your goal for your art?And how far do you want to take it. Sadly not many artists think this way concerning art. They just know their friends,family,and people in the community say their work is good.Or support their work because they are being supportive.You don't know how good your work is until you put it out there and show it off with in a community that has higher than average standards.That way you will either get valid feedback or your work will be just ignored.Even still its a humbling experience.

Here is a list of do's and don'ts when receiving critiques or valid forms of constructive criticism.

*Game recognizes game. 
If the person giving the critique is better than you and have earned their street cred by working in the industry.
Just shut up and listen.Because they acknowledged you as an artist by even just giving you advice or noticed your work to comment on it.

*Learn to be your own worst critic.
Can it be detrimental to your development as an artist? Yes but that's only if your constantly being way to hard on yourself. But knowing what you are,who you are, and testing your limits as an artist it will help you develop faster.Because you already have a sense on ways you can be better.

*Have a set of Standards for your work and do your best to meet them.
An artist or someone with an eye for an art can break your work down just by looking at it.They can identify on whether you are serious or not about your work. This leads to why many artists and art critics comment on others work. We are a very supportive community if you fully invest in being a part of the art game.If you come off as a fraud or half ass the work needed to getting better your going to get called out on it.

*Put up or Shut up
Basically it applies to you as the person giving the critique or criticism. Don't go off coming off as a art snob when your work can't back up the shit you post about others work.

* Would you like some cheese with that whine.
Stop whining and making excuses on why you do not choose to raise your game.Just own up to it and move on. It means less drama if you just own up to it.

*If you can't say at least something nice....(when offering an opinion on some ones art work)
Don't say anything at all.Yeah, pretty self explanatory.This will keep the drama to a minimum as well.

* Practice what you preach.
Same thing as Put Up or Shut up.Only difference is don't always stand on the sidelines being a cheerleader for others work.Practice and excel at the skills needed in which you give advice on to others.

*Say what you mean.Explain how you feel.
This is the key to giving proper critiques and not make you sound like complete douche when you give constructive criticism. Let the person know you care and not just trying to make the person feel bad.

*Style Looses to Substance.(most of the time)
It doesn't matter how creative your work is.How dynamic your figure work or poses are if your work has glaring fundamental technical art flaws.For all the hell that Rob Liefeld gets from many in the art community.On a fundamental level his proportions,shading, comic page layout,construction, and storytelling is better than most of the artists who talk about and nitpick his issues with anatomy. He knows he has issues drawing accurate anatomy but he doesn't care.Because his ass made about a million bucks in his prime. When he got into the comic biz his figure work was not as exaggerated.I know he is a bad example but he has thrived in era where art standards were higher than they are now. Basically learn how to draw properly before you break all the rules. All artists to a certain degree are crafty bullshitters. So most of us can see through bullshit.

And last but not least..

*F*** the haters.
Keep doing your thing.If you enjoy what you do then it doesn't matter what others think. But realize there is more to the art game than just putting pencil to paper.Once you put your art on public display you made your choice to be recognized as an artist.You have to accept the good and the bad that comes with that distinction.

In Conclusion.

I wrote this for me as much for any other artists taking the time to read it. All I want is a bullshit free community.I want an honest art community. And I want one not governed by warped popular opinions or political agendas. The art game needs to have layers like an onion. It needs culture and depth. And people willing to support the young talent who wish to uphold high standards. Be an artist with purpose.Because you need purpose and passion to thrive with in it.Otherwise your just a doodler.Don't be a doodler and expect to just be someone in the art game. Don't be an art scrub. Heed the advice and critiques of other artists.

And stop hating,art shaming, and being an art snob just because you got a stick up your butt.

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A Sensible Beginners Guide to Giving and Receiving Critiques for Novices, Hobbyists,Pros, and Nitpickers.

Part 1.

Introduction

So why am I taking the time to write something that can either make me look like a pretentious judgmental elitest art jerk? Well because its the sign of the times. A lot of people due to digital programs,Youtube, and online tutorials have gotten into the art game.Whether its for just telling your comic book stories for fun, just drawing just to draw, or doing art as a mean to pay your bills or make money on the side. Not one person or artist for that matter can hide from public opinion.Nor should you try to.

Whether people say it to your face or talk about it on the internet.If your work is out in public offline or online you will face some form of public opinion whether good or bad.And no one is going to ask your permission or wait for your approval to say what they think or feel.That's life get over it. Will it at times hurt your feelings? Yes.Will it piss you off? Oh Hell Yes!? Will it bruise your ego? Definitely! Should it make you get so defensive of your work that you won't listen to what people who have been in your shoes has to say and verbally attack them or punch them in the face? No. That just makes them right and you overcompensating for the fact you got butt hurt over someones blunt yet truthful honesty.

We are all human. I get butt hurt over being constantly called on my flaws and inconsistencies in my work. But I fix what needs to be fixed and learn from what people are telling me. Even if they constantly beat it into my head. Even the pros catch hell.But even they realize that at the end of the day while their work is not perfect they are making a living in the art game with good to great success. And the majority of us are not. Is that fair?No.But life isn't fair so get over it. Even still standards do exist in the art world and our own ignorance and ego's should not stop us from getting better to meet our own personal goals or if you choose to meet those standards.

Before I get to the point of this guide here is a disclaimer..

I, the author of this guide am not a master illustrator .Nor do I got the re known or street cred to even be considered a player in the art game. But I am player in it and I play to win.Because winners make money and get paid. I'm a illustrator/pin up artist that's like drawing sexy women.So what gives me the right to think of even writing about such a touchy subject? Well..because this is America dammit! I can write about whatever the hell I want! Seriously though its because I had formal art training.I attended the Academy of Art college. I had great instructors who had to break me in order to make me a better artist as well as a person. I have good family, friends, and mentors who keep me on my toes and know when to call me on my bullshit and give me great constructive feedback. I have fans and supporters of my work that recognize that I am doing my best not only for me but for them as well.

And like many of you I have had people tell me my art sucks,nitpick and dissect my hard work as a joke,or just troll it to hurt me feelings or get a negative reaction. I've had bad critiques.I still get a fair share of hate when I go to cons.Just recently at a con I had any people cover their eyes or their children's eyes when passing by my table. I've had feminists and social justice warriors condemning what I love drawing and saying its sexist and misogynist towards women. I've had people who I felt were friends or acquaintances come by my table and not even show support for my work and instead buy art from the guy at the table next to mine. So I have experienced a far share of hate and unwanted criticism. Some of it I can control and some of it I cannot. But this is all a part of the art game.Whether you take it seriously or as a hobby.

A lot of what is being written is from my own personal experience of getting critiqued and receiving them.Feel free to agree or disagree. This guide is meant to be discussed.It isn't a final say on the subject.Its an introduction critiquing guide to new artists. A refresher for intermediate artists. And a reminder for those trying to get into the pro side of the art game.Where how you receive and take critiques really determines your success in terms of doing art for a living.

Critiques,Constructive Criticism, and Nitpicking.

As people we(especially the more outspoken ones) openly say or have an opinion on what we like or dislike.How you voice your opinion ,the way you say it, the point of you saying what you have to say, combined with the person your voicing your opinion to "thick skin" level,can can turn what you feel as a form of helpful constructive criticism into an argument or fight. With both sides not getting their points across. Its the price we pay for our freedom of speech in this country.And art is a form of freedom of speech.Its called freedom of expression.Your free to create and express yourself however you want.But your not free from people saying what they think or feel about you or your art work, and how you express yourself. Because they have the same rights as you do.

With that being said...I'm sure some of you are like well Mr Smarty pants how do you give a proper critique?
I'm glad you asked. You have to recognize these key factors before flapping your gums or blowing your art knowledge load on some naive yet highly defensive and volatile art noob that is big enough to knock your ass out.

* Recognize the skill of the artist relative to their age,talent,and knowledge and give a constructive opinion based on those observations. That's it pretty much. It gets more complex the higher you go up in the art game.

To do this you have to have an eye for art. Along with the experience,knowledge, and training in various forms and techniques to properly convey to the artist your critiquing what they are doing right and wrong with their work.

Well what if the person giving the critique is not as good or well known as the artist they are critiquing?

I will go in depth when I discuss how to receive critiques.But I will say this, a good critique is given because the person respects your work and wants you to get better.Because they realize you can be better.If they
didn't see some degree of talent,effort,or skill in your work they would have said it just sucks or not bothered giving a critique or constructive criticism at all.You don't have to be an artist to recognize flaws in an illustrative piece or drawing.

What?Why is that?! I don't buy that crap!

You should because it comes down to the most hated term in the art game the last 5 yrs.The term is called standards.No matter how creative or original your style of art is or your drawing process may be many have mastered it and done it better.They have set the bar and the standards because they have become successful doing it. If the majority of the average non artistic individual as well as those in the art world recognizes it as being great. Then the standard for that particular art style or art has been set and thats how it is.Whether you agree or not.Your job as the artist is to change peoples perception of what great art is or get some form of emotional response. Its up to you whether you want to meet or surpass those standards.

What if the person giving the critique don't know what they are talking about?

You as the person who is receiving the critique would know that from the get go.Your free to defend your work as you see fit.But if the person gave a right on the money critique there is no true defense or valid excuses.Unless you got butt hurt and just popped off because some one noticed flaws in your work.So unless you can defend your work by having more art knowledge than the person giving the critique you are going to lose that debate most of the time
I will cover this in detail when I discuss how to receive critiques.

How do I give a proper critique then?There are so many different styles of art and drawing. How can I properly say what is bad or what is good?

Good question. First you need to ask yourself what is the purpose for critiquing or offering constructive criticism for this persons art work. What are you getting out of it? Do you wish to genuinely help this person get better? Are you nitpicking the persons work out of envy or spite? Are you just trying to come off as Art snob and let others artists know of your vast art skills and superiority?Is the persons work so flawed that your OCD art tendencies kick into overdrive and you feel the need to tell the person how flawed their work is as nicely as you can. Or are you critiquing a persons work based on a political or social agenda? Basically if your giving a critique for any other reasons other than trying to genuinely help someone your are not giving a proper critique.

Next do you have the knowledge,skills, and experience to back up your critique when the artist you critiqued responds to your critique. This is where things can either be civil or volatile. But you as the critique has got to master the art of quickly disengaging from the person that got pissed off. I know its hard. Just recently I got into it with some artist in an art group here on face book. Its a long story but I should have disengaged instead of getting caught up in that persons ignorance. So that was my fault.

Don't be afraid to say what you feel needs to be said.Especially if you respect and like the artist that you are critiquing. As an artist I would much rather have my stuff put constantly on blast by people than not have my work commented on at all.Through disagreements,arguments, fights, and conflict in general comes understanding.If your critiquing or defending your work from critique just make sure you back up your point with facts and not trolling,personally attacking one another and using bullshit excuses.We display or work to get it recognized. Having your work recognized is not always going to be showered with praise or compliments.

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Updates and Sac Anime

 Sac Anime is the weekend of Sept 4-6.So its the weekend after this weekend. Am I excited about the con? Not really.I'm more looking forward to the fact that I will be out the house for about 3  days. I will sale,relax,sale,relax,sale and then head home. I'm hoping I'll get more commissions at this con.Speaking of Commissions....



Commission Updates.

  I'm busting my as trying to finish up some commissions that I had taken awhile back. I will do my best to have them done before I head off to Sac Anime. From now on I will set up a limited amount of commission spots.I will have 9 open spots.Once those get filled won't take on any more commission assignments until those are done.Some times I take on more commissions than I can handle in a reasonable amount of time. I also don't want the customer to wait over a month to get the art that they paid for. If I had to wait a month for art work I would be pissed.

The buy 2 get 1 free sketch drive is still going on. 15 bucks for an 11 x 14  tight pencil one character drawing of your choice.$5 extra if you want it inked.Each additional character is $5 each. I also do 11x 17 full illustrations for $40(yes I'm cheap). If I like the drawing I wlll ask you if you would allow me to have it  colored at no extra charge to you,  so I can make prints of it to sale at cons. I'll send you the digital copy of colored work as well. If you would like to have the original work mailed to you I will have to charge for shipping.

As far as content goes nudes is fine. I'm not doing much XXX content at this time. Unless your willing to to pay extra for it because drawing the real naughty stuff takes more attention to detail and more focus.If you want the real naughty stuff send e a note and we can haggle. I don't draw futas or anything thats too freaky(scat,vore,tentacle rape,golden showers, vomiting, any type of rape,ect) sorry .But drawing hot big booby girls  getting molested and well hung guys banging big booby girls are perfectly fine.

Here is the Commission slot list. I got 3 open spots available.

1.CW
2.CW
3.SweetChorizo
4.Jose
5.Jose
6.Jose
7.
8.
9.

3 Slots open people! I could use the cash.I take paypal,cash, or money order. O_O.

Oh and if you come by my booth at cons I  do $5 sketches. I do some of my best work doing those 8 x11 $5 sketches.


Convention updates

It looks like ight con season might last a bit longer.A lot of cons are popping up in the fall and winter. We got two more cons in October we will be attending. As far as the con season goes thus far its been ok.I can't complain. I'm just thankful and just trying to enjoy the experience because I don't have any plans or goals in terms of doing cons next year. I going to fully invest in doing Patreon and commissions in order to make money so that I can cover my own costs for going to cons.


DaMack 2015
Stockton Con Commission by Bfetish
Stockton Con Commission

Stockton Con commission. I call it One Man's Fantasy heh heh. A young man commissioned me too draw him surrounded by Wonder Woman, Lady Death, and The Phoenix. I just kept the idea behind this one simple. It was challenging but not something I haven't done before.

I used to draw nothing but group pin up illustrations of multiple characters. Back when I was more motivated I would be at my drawing table from dusk till dawn. It was a part of the learning process and wanting to get better in order to draw comics and make a living doing art.

I' m happy I got into the art game in my 30's instead of in my late teens and early 20's.I wasn't mature enough to deal with the drama in the art community.Nor was I good enough to compete. Fandom didn't have as much bullshit back then,but the standards in terms of art work were higher back then than they are now. You also didn't have social media to bullshit your way into being popular and getting you street cred as an artist. We got a lot of artists these days who are getting work,commissions, and opportunities based more on their social media followers than the quality of their work.

Am I hating on these artists? No ,I just have no problems calling them on their bullshit. I've been trying to capitalize on the social media thing too.But just like doing art maintaining your social media network takes time and you got to keep doing it. In the end it comes down to what direction you want to take in your hustle.

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Part 2

Ok OK whatever...So what is the difference between a "proper" critique, constructive, criticism, and someone just nitpicking?

Here are examples.

Example of a nitpick I have received on my art work quite often.

"Ugh.. you have drawn the boobs way to big on that character in comparison to how it is drawn in the comic book."

My Take on This Response
The person clearly voiced their opinion.But chose to only notice what they felt was a flaw in the work.I openly admit to drawing big breasts on most of my fan art.So the response was valid.But not fully explained.To me the artist I'm left wondering if the person just doesn't like big boobs or the drawing in general.The only thing they pointed out and "picked" on was how big I drawn the characters boobs. As the artist getting that response I'm left wondering where is this person going with this type comment. And you as the person posting the comment has just opened up a can of worms that you may not have the time or state of mind to deal with. Because this can be seen as a form of hating or art shaming someones work.

Example of Constructive Criticism

" You do realize the boobs are way to big on the character don't you?. And it doesn't fit the characters body type. The hands are not drawn very well and I noticed that you always draw your heads in a 3 quarters view or angle. And why don't you draw the full figure.You always seem to draw your figures ending at the knee. If I were you I would look at tutorials on how to properly draw breasts. And take some anatomy classes.You should work on drawing different poses as well."

My take on this response
The person was brutally honest to the point it came off as condescending even though they may not have wanted to come off that way.This person made an honest and straight to the point observation and offered very constructive criticism. But that's all they did. They mostly criticized what they felt were flaws in the work. They didn't acknowledge anything good about it. They also gave a very "know it all" way of giving me advice to address the flaws in my work. But you know what. I cannot deny I have those flaws. But what would piss me off is the fact they are profiling me as an artist. Because I do know how to properly draw breasts.I just draw what I like drawing.I have taken 2 different anatomy classes. And 3 different figure drawing classes. So all that knowledge may not come through in most of my work.But thats because I'm drawing based purely on aesthetics and what I like to look at and draw.First and foremost I draw for me unless your paying me to draw something for you.

Example of a Proper Critique

"Wow! Mack nice work.Great job on the hair and shading.The face is really well done and I like the attention to detail in trying to get the costume to be as accurate as possible. The body flow is very solid and visually appealing.
The breasts are a little too big for my taste but to each their own.

You might want to tighten up your hands though and be mindful of your proportions.They do work but sometimes the anatomy can be slightly off. I would like to see more dynamic poses in your work. You do tend to draw the same or similar poses a lot. Overall the work is solid.Keep doing what you do!"

My take on this response.
A well thought out and worded critique. This person noticed what I do well and mentions what they like about the art work.At the same time they do not let their own personal bias cloud their judgment and critique the piece for what it is. They also recognized all my flaws by telling me in a way "That hey maybe you would want to address these issues.Because it will make your work better". They also said what they would like to see in my work in hopes that it will stimulate my creativity. I can't bad mouth this person or get butt hurt for that type of comment to my work.Because they came off as liking my work,being supportive, and offering great advice on things to improve in my work. I could be angry and not accept this persons critique but that just would make me come off as arrogant art scrub.Who thinks they are to good to have their work critiqued.

"Fine I see what you are saying. But what if I genuinely feel that the person giving me constructive criticism or critiques is talking out of their ass concerning some aspects of my art. Or I feel they don't have the skills or street cred to tell me anything concerning art."

Hmm well I guess its time to address....

How to Take and Receive Critiques

Me personally has gotten it a lot of constructive criticism,critiques,nitpicks, and some degree of hate over the years for my art work. Many different factors come into play in how and why some artists get more love than others.And why certain artists don't get the attention they deserve.Times are a lot more different now compared to when I was going to art school. The standards were higher.Digital tools and even having access to the internet wasn't common. If you wanted to show off your work you either got a table at cons or attended cons. You had to mail off your art submissions to potential employers back then. Since the standards were higher the art game was viewed more as a viable trade to apply your craft more so than just as a hobby. A lot of top names got known from toiling in the trenches in the independent comic book scene. Some well known artists worked for free just to get known in order to get hired and paid as a comic book artist.

These days if you got the creativity,the time, and the extra income you can self publish your own comic book or webcomic.You don't need to travel to have editors look at your work or submit your work to them.All you need is a dream,time, and passion to get your work out there.Not too mention you can download a lot of digital art tools for free.You can read a bunch of tutorials and watch hours of Youtube videos on how to do art and do digital color work.So you can mentally convince yourself you got what it takes to compete with the big boys.

"Whoah! Whoah! What the hell does this have to do receiving critiques?!

I'm getting to that.Almost every thing is easily accessible these days. And this leads to instant gratification.Which in turn leads to a lot of derivative work being published and produced. Which lowers the previous standards that were set.

"Ok but why is this such a big deal? Isn't a good thing for more people to get into art?Shouldn't everyone have the opportunity to be able to create?"

Here's a question for you,would you accept just anyone into the NBA just because they learned how to do dribble tricks and dunk from watching Youtube videos? You have to earn your spot.And the standards for anything at a high level are very high. In order to develop into being in the NBA you got to be athletically gifted,court savy, and love the game to the point you don't half ass the process of getting better. And your constantly going to be coached and have not just coaches but players dissecting and breaking down your game as a player.

"But that's sports?! That doesn't apply to the art game?"

Yes it does. Not only do you got to bust your ass and constantly draw and study.Your going to have people,teachers,friends,family, and your peers in the art game either supporting you or not. How you learn,who supports your work, and how you take coaching and critique has a huge hand in your success as an artist. Granted there are different paths to success in the art game.Even still how you take and receive critique and feedback does determine your fate if you want to be a professional.

"What if I don't want to be a professional? And I just want to draw and tell my stories because I enjoiy doing it."

That's perfectly fine.But as soon as you start self publishing your comics and stories with the intent to sale you are jumping into an ocean full of sharks. You are no longer a hobbyist if you intend to profit off of your work. No matter how much you consider it just a "hobby".Putting in all that work and time to produce a book and not make any profit to at least cover the cost on it is a waste of time and finances. Plus you are flooding the market with derivative product if you continue to think of it as just a "hobby". There are people trying to make a name for themselves in the art game. How you take critique is essential to getting better. Getting your name out there and leading to more opportunities doing what you love for a living.

If you don't want to be a pro or take your game to the next level then that's fine. But most artists want to display their work and have it recognized.If you want to lower the amount of haters,criticism, and bad critiques you get well your still going to have to want to get better even if you just like to draw for shits a giggles. Once you put your work on display you got to mentally prepare yourself for various types of responses to your work.

"Whatever..So how should I react to haters and criticism?"

As far as hate your better off ignoring it.But you also have to know how to tell the difference between some one hating and offering valid criticism. That only happens from receiving a fair share of hate,valid criticism, and proper critique. And because their are so many new artists getting into the art game not many of them has had the experience of having their work properly critiqued. So many don't know how to take it. We got a lot of grown folks acting like whiny brats in the art game and geek fandom in general right now.

Before you get defensive about getting your worked critiqued you should know your strengths and weaknesses as an artist.What is your goal for your art?And how far do you want to take it. Sadly not many artists think this way concerning art. They just know their friends,family,and people in the community say their work is good.Or support their work because they are being supportive.You don't know how good your work is until you put it out there and show it off with in a community that has higher than average standards.That way you will either get valid feedback or your work will be just ignored.Even still its a humbling experience.

Here is a list of do's and don'ts when receiving critiques or valid forms of constructive criticism.

*Game recognizes game. 
If the person giving the critique is better than you and have earned their street cred by working in the industry.
Just shut up and listen.Because they acknowledged you as an artist by even just giving you advice or noticed your work to comment on it.

*Learn to be your own worst critic.
Can it be detrimental to your development as an artist? Yes but that's only if your constantly being way to hard on yourself. But knowing what you are,who you are, and testing your limits as an artist it will help you develop faster.Because you already have a sense on ways you can be better.

*Have a set of Standards for your work and do your best to meet them.
An artist or someone with an eye for an art can break your work down just by looking at it.They can identify on whether you are serious or not about your work. This leads to why many artists and art critics comment on others work. We are a very supportive community if you fully invest in being a part of the art game.If you come off as a fraud or half ass the work needed to getting better your going to get called out on it.

*Put up or Shut up
Basically it applies to you as the person giving the critique or criticism. Don't go off coming off as a art snob when your work can't back up the shit you post about others work.

* Would you like some cheese with that whine.
Stop whining and making excuses on why you do not choose to raise your game.Just own up to it and move on. It means less drama if you just own up to it.

*If you can't say at least something nice....(when offering an opinion on some ones art work)
Don't say anything at all.Yeah, pretty self explanatory.This will keep the drama to a minimum as well.

* Practice what you preach.
Same thing as Put Up or Shut up.Only difference is don't always stand on the sidelines being a cheerleader for others work.Practice and excel at the skills needed in which you give advice on to others.

*Say what you mean.Explain how you feel.
This is the key to giving proper critiques and not make you sound like complete douche when you give constructive criticism. Let the person know you care and not just trying to make the person feel bad.

*Style Looses to Substance.(most of the time)
It doesn't matter how creative your work is.How dynamic your figure work or poses are if your work has glaring fundamental technical art flaws.For all the hell that Rob Liefeld gets from many in the art community.On a fundamental level his proportions,shading, comic page layout,construction, and storytelling is better than most of the artists who talk about and nitpick his issues with anatomy. He knows he has issues drawing accurate anatomy but he doesn't care.Because his ass made about a million bucks in his prime. When he got into the comic biz his figure work was not as exaggerated.I know he is a bad example but he has thrived in era where art standards were higher than they are now. Basically learn how to draw properly before you break all the rules. All artists to a certain degree are crafty bullshitters. So most of us can see through bullshit.

And last but not least..

*F*** the haters.
Keep doing your thing.If you enjoy what you do then it doesn't matter what others think. But realize there is more to the art game than just putting pencil to paper.Once you put your art on public display you made your choice to be recognized as an artist.You have to accept the good and the bad that comes with that distinction.

In Conclusion.

I wrote this for me as much for any other artists taking the time to read it. All I want is a bullshit free community.I want an honest art community. And I want one not governed by warped popular opinions or political agendas. The art game needs to have layers like an onion. It needs culture and depth. And people willing to support the young talent who wish to uphold high standards. Be an artist with purpose.Because you need purpose and passion to thrive with in it.Otherwise your just a doodler.Don't be a doodler and expect to just be someone in the art game. Don't be an art scrub. Heed the advice and critiques of other artists.

And stop hating,art shaming, and being an art snob just because you got a stick up your butt.

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Montreal Mack
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Well I'm back,pretty much full time. The real world is kicking my ass but I'm kicking back. I'm going to be posting a crap load of new pieces.So be sure to leave a comment of praise or critcism.

I'm an older guy and pretty easy going. This drawing thing I do is all I got to leave something of myself to let the world know I do exist.

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Thank you for the fav on my tease drawing. :)
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You're welcome.
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Thanks for the :+devwatch: back, your sketches are great :)
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You're welcome.Thx ^_^
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Hey, I remember that not too long ago you watched me on my first account iAmCloudSky

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If you'd like to watch me on here instead, it's appreciated.  

Keep in touch! & even get to know each other a bit. We might just be two people behind a screen, but that doesn't mean that we can't be friends.

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Cool.I'll check your new page out.
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<3 Thanks!
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this line art work is so good! well done!
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